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		<title>By: Big Piping</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Piping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pips are always valued in terms of CCY2 (USD/CHF pips are valued in CHF "Swiss Franc" terms, and EUR/USD pips are valued in USD "Dollar" terms).

You are solving for the USD value of a pip per the amount traded. when USD is CCY1 you need to make a conversion (1 / given rate = USD Terms), and when USD is CCY2 the pips are already in USD Terms.

Amount traded = 100,000.
When USD is CCY1 (with conversion):
USD/JPY at an exchange rate of 119.80
(.01 / 119.80) x $100,000 = $8.34 per pip
USD/CHF at an exchange rate of 1.4555
(.0001 / 1.4555) x $100,000 = $6.87 per pip

When USD is CCY2:
EUR/USD at an exchange rate of 1.1930
.0001 X 100,000 =  $10 per pip


A short cut:

If you know the value of a pip when USD is CCY2 (EUR/USD, GBP/USD)traded amounts are always valued at:

Description .......... Trade amount ........ Value .......... 
"Mini Lot" ........... 10,000 .............. $1 .............
"Standard Lot" ....... 100,000 ............. $10 ............ 
"Million" ............ 1,000,000 ........... $100 ...........
"Yard" ............... 1,000,000,000 ....... $1,000 .........

When USD is CCY1: Value / rate = Pip value
100,000 USD/CHF at 1.4555
$10 / 1.4555 = $6.87

When with JPY or HUF multiply by 100 or move decimal 2 places to the left.
100,000 USD/JPY at 119.80
$10 / 1.198 = $8.34
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The ordering of a currency pair for FX trading is standard. It is a ranked list and to form a valid currency pair the higher ranked currency is placed first (hence it is USD/JPY and not JPY/USD)
................................... EUR/USD
.................................. CCY1/CCY2

CCY1 AKA "Base Currency", "Transaction Currency", or "Traded Currency".

CCY2 AKA "Quote Currency", "Secondary Currency", "Terms Currency”, “Variable Currency”, or “Counter Currency”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pips are always valued in terms of CCY2 (USD/CHF pips are valued in CHF &#8220;Swiss Franc&#8221; terms, and EUR/USD pips are valued in USD &#8220;Dollar&#8221; terms).</p>
<p>You are solving for the USD value of a pip per the amount traded. when USD is CCY1 you need to make a conversion (1 / given rate = USD Terms), and when USD is CCY2 the pips are already in USD Terms.</p>
<p>Amount traded = 100,000.<br />
When USD is CCY1 (with conversion):<br />
USD/JPY at an exchange rate of 119.80<br />
(.01 / 119.80) x $100,000 = $8.34 per pip<br />
USD/CHF at an exchange rate of 1.4555<br />
(.0001 / 1.4555) x $100,000 = $6.87 per pip</p>
<p>When USD is CCY2:<br />
EUR/USD at an exchange rate of 1.1930<br />
.0001 X 100,000 =  $10 per pip</p>
<p>A short cut:</p>
<p>If you know the value of a pip when USD is CCY2 (EUR/USD, GBP/USD)traded amounts are always valued at:</p>
<p>Description &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Trade amount &#8230;&#8230;.. Value &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Mini Lot&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 10,000 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. $1 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Standard Lot&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;. 100,000 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. $10 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Million&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 1,000,000 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. $100 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
&#8220;Yard&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 1,000,000,000 &#8230;&#8230;. $1,000 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>When USD is CCY1: Value / rate = Pip value<br />
100,000 USD/CHF at 1.4555<br />
$10 / 1.4555 = $6.87</p>
<p>When with JPY or HUF multiply by 100 or move decimal 2 places to the left.<br />
100,000 USD/JPY at 119.80<br />
$10 / 1.198 = $8.34<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>The ordering of a currency pair for FX trading is standard. It is a ranked list and to form a valid currency pair the higher ranked currency is placed first (hence it is USD/JPY and not JPY/USD)<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. EUR/USD<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. CCY1/CCY2</p>
<p>CCY1 AKA &#8220;Base Currency&#8221;, &#8220;Transaction Currency&#8221;, or &#8220;Traded Currency&#8221;.</p>
<p>CCY2 AKA &#8220;Quote Currency&#8221;, &#8220;Secondary Currency&#8221;, &#8220;Terms Currency”, “Variable Currency”, or “Counter Currency”.</p>
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		<title>By: Jantz Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.series34exam.com/pip-values-and-price-after-pips/comment-page-1/#comment-3210</link>
		<dc:creator>Jantz Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip value for JPY is .01

100,000 USD/JPY at 83.50

100,000 USD X.01 = 1000
1000/83.50 = 11.98

this calcuation allows for trades sizes not standard 100,000 or 10,000 lots...would work for odd trade sizes such as 124,215 if you are using the spot transaction as a hedge to anther investment that would require a specific dollar size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip value for JPY is .01</p>
<p>100,000 USD/JPY at 83.50</p>
<p>100,000 USD X.01 = 1000<br />
1000/83.50 = 11.98</p>
<p>this calcuation allows for trades sizes not standard 100,000 or 10,000 lots&#8230;would work for odd trade sizes such as 124,215 if you are using the spot transaction as a hedge to anther investment that would require a specific dollar size.</p>
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		<title>By: Jantz Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.series34exam.com/pip-values-and-price-after-pips/comment-page-1/#comment-3209</link>
		<dc:creator>Jantz Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip vlue is calcuated as such

position size in USD X pip value / exhcange rate

Example #1 100,000 GBP/USD pip value rate at 1.5715

100,000 GBP X 1.5715 = 157,150 USD
157150 USD X .001 = 15.715
15.715 / 1.5715 = 10.00

Example #2 100,000 USD/CAD pip value rate at 1.0285

10,000 USD X .0001 = 10
1 / 1.0285 = .972</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip vlue is calcuated as such</p>
<p>position size in USD X pip value / exhcange rate</p>
<p>Example #1 100,000 GBP/USD pip value rate at 1.5715</p>
<p>100,000 GBP X 1.5715 = 157,150 USD<br />
157150 USD X .001 = 15.715<br />
15.715 / 1.5715 = 10.00</p>
<p>Example #2 100,000 USD/CAD pip value rate at 1.0285</p>
<p>10,000 USD X .0001 = 10<br />
1 / 1.0285 = .972</p>
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